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16 thoughts on “What Kills COVID-19 Coronavirus?”
How does time kill the virus? They say it can last up to X amount of time on whatever Y surface. Does it’s envelope decay? Does it get eaten by bacteria?
Great questions. The coronavirus “spike (S) glycoprotein trimers are its outermost layer. They promote entry into cells “and are the main target of the humoral immune response.” One source says most proteins degrade “within a few days” but a few last a very long time. For example, “the nuclear pore consists of a protein scaffold with half life >1 year.” Degradation of the spike glycoproteins (some? all?) would disable it. After that, it has a lipid membrane. Wikipedia says virus “envelopes are typically derived from portions of the host cell membranes (phospholipids and proteins), but include some viral glycoproteins. They may help viruses avoid the host immune system.” How long can partly exposed lipid membranes survive in the air? “The lipid bilayer envelope of these viruses is relatively sensitive to desiccation, heat, and detergents, therefore these viruses are easier to sterilize than non-enveloped viruses…” So.. it’s not really time itself, but breaking the proteins and lipid membrane that kills it during that time, it seems.
I spoke with 3M on the phone about N/95 N/100 P95/ P100 mask and Respirators and according to the expert I spoke with, the 0.3 microns is a special number because THAT is the particle size hardest to filter. The mask filter smaller AND larger particles just fine. Basically a law says nobody can say 100%. P95 can only claim 95% and P100 can only claim 97.9% but that doesn’t mean it won’t filter out the virus, it only means they can’t say that. I’m wearing a 3M A1P2 respirator OV P95 with pre-filters as well as the two Respirator P95 filters. Nothing is getting through this. “My opinion”
Thanks Tommy, this is great info. Much appreciated. It sure makes sense. If one N95 stops 95%, wear two and it seems like you’d increase your odds. Add hand washing and staying healthy otherwise and surface sterilizers and you might fully survive without even getting sick. Our health care workers should all have the best protection available. Right, 1 micron = 1,000 nano meters. I think I had some errors in my text, thanks. So 300 nanometers is the largest allowable size in the filters, but they have some percentage of smaller pores is the way I understand what you are saying. If you look at them under an electron microscope, the filters are sort of a gauntlet of fiber sticks that the virus has to get pulled through by the inhale. That’s why I favor the dried salt for additional protection. As the virus bumps into the salt-activated fibers, it gets ripped up, or so the research says.
I notice that you appeared to have confused Oxygen absorbing 60 GHz, with 60 GHz absorbing Oxygen. No reason that I know of for Oxygen to be absorbed by the radiation. Where would it go? The Oxygen absorbs the signal. Where does it go? The energy goes into the Oxygen, I suppose, as you mention.
Thanks, see it now, updated. The article we linked to had the title: “Wireless at 60 GHz Has Unique Oxygen Absorption Properties.” Yes, oxygen molecules block and absorb the electromagnetic waves which are waving at 60GHz and when they do this the energy bumps the oxygen’s electrons into higher orbits. In an excited O2 molecule, the atoms become more electronegative, acquiring more potential to combine or react due to changes in positions of electrons. Will this be of possible benefit? Could it create a mist of hydrogen peroxide to sterilize airborne viruses or remove pollutants? We haven’t heard of anything like that yet, just an idea.
you can spend hours digging up favorable articles re: vitamin c and anti cancer/ anti viral effects. I would encourage you to do your own research- additionally there is a case report from S Korea; hospital staff given 6 grams vit c daily, ill patients, 20 grams iv- both groups doing very well
My magic elixir over the past 5 years during cold/flu seasons has been Oregano Oil (minimum 80% carvacrol)!
I swear by this stuff!!!! Screw stocking up on TP! I immediately went out to the health store and stocked up my oregano oil reserves and have enough to last me the next 3-4 months!
Since the pandemic was declared, I have been taking 10+ drops at a time, 3-5 times a day.
I put a ton more faith in my oregano oil to protect me than any possible vaccine that may end up being created.
Thanks. Dr Axe Likes it. (https://draxe.com/essential-oils/oregano-oil-benefits-superior-prescription-antibiotics/ ) “Carcavol found in oregano essential oil is so potent that it has been been the focus of over 800 studies referenced in PubMed, the worldâs No. 1 database for scientific evidence-based literature. … it has been shown in studies to help reverse or reduce some of these common health problems: Bacterial infections, Fungal infections, Parasites, Viruses, Inflammation, Allergies, Tumors, Indigestion, Candida.Because it has antimicrobial properties, oregano is also used to preserve food quality during storage…”
In my experience oregano oil is strong stuff, pure at least. I wonder if it causes you stomach problems? Are you concerned about it killing off good gut bacteria that lets you digest food and make vitamins? I haven’t read up on it yet, but hope to!
Yes, oregano oil is very strong!! I believe many people would not be able to handle to taking it under the tongue. My mom being one of them. I got her the capsules instead.
You do not want carvacrol 100% pure though. I am not sure of the reason why, but studies have indicated that 100% pure carvacrol is only half as effective as oregano oil with 70-85% carvacrol content.
Taking too much or too often could possibly lead to some stomach issues for some individuals.
That is a great thing about it as well – it does not kill off the gut’s good bacteria. It only goes after the bad stuff.
Thanks again, I’m seeing a lot of sites that recommend oregano oil to protect against COVID-19, but I’m still looking for a scientific paper that shows it kills coronaviruses.
so we KNOW enough about this virus indeed so why is there not a massive effort to prescribe prophylactics to EVERYONE? What the heck am I paying exhorbitant insurance premiums for and WHY is there such lazy and slow response to see how easy it would be to use drugs, etc. that halt the human lung cell infection?
There are supposedly a lot of studies going on right now for different therapies. One problem is that the FDA is letting test makers and those with treatment solutions do their own testing, so it might be possible to get junk tests or junk vaccines or other therapies, at first.
How does time kill the virus? They say it can last up to X amount of time on whatever Y surface. Does it’s envelope decay? Does it get eaten by bacteria?
Great questions. The coronavirus “spike (S) glycoprotein trimers are its outermost layer. They promote entry into cells “and are the main target of the humoral immune response.” One source says most proteins degrade “within a few days” but a few last a very long time. For example, “the nuclear pore consists of a protein scaffold with half life >1 year.” Degradation of the spike glycoproteins (some? all?) would disable it. After that, it has a lipid membrane. Wikipedia says virus “envelopes are typically derived from portions of the host cell membranes (phospholipids and proteins), but include some viral glycoproteins. They may help viruses avoid the host immune system.” How long can partly exposed lipid membranes survive in the air? “The lipid bilayer envelope of these viruses is relatively sensitive to desiccation, heat, and detergents, therefore these viruses are easier to sterilize than non-enveloped viruses…” So.. it’s not really time itself, but breaking the proteins and lipid membrane that kills it during that time, it seems.
I spoke with 3M on the phone about N/95 N/100 P95/ P100 mask and Respirators and according to the expert I spoke with, the 0.3 microns is a special number because THAT is the particle size hardest to filter. The mask filter smaller AND larger particles just fine. Basically a law says nobody can say 100%. P95 can only claim 95% and P100 can only claim 97.9% but that doesn’t mean it won’t filter out the virus, it only means they can’t say that. I’m wearing a 3M A1P2 respirator OV P95 with pre-filters as well as the two Respirator P95 filters. Nothing is getting through this. “My opinion”
Thanks Tommy, this is great info. Much appreciated. It sure makes sense. If one N95 stops 95%, wear two and it seems like you’d increase your odds. Add hand washing and staying healthy otherwise and surface sterilizers and you might fully survive without even getting sick. Our health care workers should all have the best protection available. Right, 1 micron = 1,000 nano meters. I think I had some errors in my text, thanks. So 300 nanometers is the largest allowable size in the filters, but they have some percentage of smaller pores is the way I understand what you are saying. If you look at them under an electron microscope, the filters are sort of a gauntlet of fiber sticks that the virus has to get pulled through by the inhale. That’s why I favor the dried salt for additional protection. As the virus bumps into the salt-activated fibers, it gets ripped up, or so the research says.
I notice that you appeared to have confused Oxygen absorbing 60 GHz, with 60 GHz absorbing Oxygen. No reason that I know of for Oxygen to be absorbed by the radiation. Where would it go? The Oxygen absorbs the signal. Where does it go? The energy goes into the Oxygen, I suppose, as you mention.
Thanks, see it now, updated. The article we linked to had the title: “Wireless at 60 GHz Has Unique Oxygen Absorption Properties.” Yes, oxygen molecules block and absorb the electromagnetic waves which are waving at 60GHz and when they do this the energy bumps the oxygen’s electrons into higher orbits. In an excited O2 molecule, the atoms become more electronegative, acquiring more potential to combine or react due to changes in positions of electrons. Will this be of possible benefit? Could it create a mist of hydrogen peroxide to sterilize airborne viruses or remove pollutants? We haven’t heard of anything like that yet, just an idea.
using “factcheck” to verify vitamin c viricidal capability is like asking the mailman to fix your car- i direct you to this:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10543583/
you can spend hours digging up favorable articles re: vitamin c and anti cancer/ anti viral effects. I would encourage you to do your own research- additionally there is a case report from S Korea; hospital staff given 6 grams vit c daily, ill patients, 20 grams iv- both groups doing very well
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My magic elixir over the past 5 years during cold/flu seasons has been Oregano Oil (minimum 80% carvacrol)!
I swear by this stuff!!!! Screw stocking up on TP! I immediately went out to the health store and stocked up my oregano oil reserves and have enough to last me the next 3-4 months!
Since the pandemic was declared, I have been taking 10+ drops at a time, 3-5 times a day.
I put a ton more faith in my oregano oil to protect me than any possible vaccine that may end up being created.
Thanks. Dr Axe Likes it. (https://draxe.com/essential-oils/oregano-oil-benefits-superior-prescription-antibiotics/ ) “Carcavol found in oregano essential oil is so potent that it has been been the focus of over 800 studies referenced in PubMed, the worldâs No. 1 database for scientific evidence-based literature. … it has been shown in studies to help reverse or reduce some of these common health problems: Bacterial infections, Fungal infections, Parasites, Viruses, Inflammation, Allergies, Tumors, Indigestion, Candida.Because it has antimicrobial properties, oregano is also used to preserve food quality during storage…”
In my experience oregano oil is strong stuff, pure at least. I wonder if it causes you stomach problems? Are you concerned about it killing off good gut bacteria that lets you digest food and make vitamins? I haven’t read up on it yet, but hope to!
Yes, oregano oil is very strong!! I believe many people would not be able to handle to taking it under the tongue. My mom being one of them. I got her the capsules instead.
You do not want carvacrol 100% pure though. I am not sure of the reason why, but studies have indicated that 100% pure carvacrol is only half as effective as oregano oil with 70-85% carvacrol content.
Taking too much or too often could possibly lead to some stomach issues for some individuals.
That is a great thing about it as well – it does not kill off the gut’s good bacteria. It only goes after the bad stuff.
Thanks again, I’m seeing a lot of sites that recommend oregano oil to protect against COVID-19, but I’m still looking for a scientific paper that shows it kills coronaviruses.
?How do you kill something that IS NOT alive?
?Just sayin’?âď¸
You are correct. The term “kills the virus” really means disables the functionality of the collection of molecules that is causing this disease.
so we KNOW enough about this virus indeed so why is there not a massive effort to prescribe prophylactics to EVERYONE? What the heck am I paying exhorbitant insurance premiums for and WHY is there such lazy and slow response to see how easy it would be to use drugs, etc. that halt the human lung cell infection?
There are supposedly a lot of studies going on right now for different therapies. One problem is that the FDA is letting test makers and those with treatment solutions do their own testing, so it might be possible to get junk tests or junk vaccines or other therapies, at first.